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auragreg
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:23 am Reply with quote
Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 2382 Location: Highland, Michigan, USA, Earth
Yep - last night. It actually came out good! I was surprised of the quality you can get from a DIY setup.

I'll post up my process and pics soon to document for myself and others.

I'm so stoked!

this is the artwork I decided on for my first decks:



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pickieman
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:04 am Reply with quote
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Cool art - like a origami tree.
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auragreg
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:20 am Reply with quote
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ok - tried my first prints .... I think I should have went with a little simpler art for the first go!

I'm having huge problems getting the art to print at the edge of the board. I'm putting lots of pressure on the squeegee and it's still not printing. I have a 10" squeegee. Using my fingers to push the edges down.

Looking through the threads, it seems that possibly the screen is too tight. Do screens loosen up as you use them? Is there a way to loosen up a screen?

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DUBS
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:04 am Reply with quote
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My printing skills are limited, but are you doing a flood coat before your passes?

That couldbe the problem.
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auragreg
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:59 am Reply with quote
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yes - I am. A VERY thin one seemed to work the best.

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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:17 am Reply with quote
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You're printing decks right?

PM skinny, dude know's his shit. He might help you out with some tips.

That's who I learned from. Good luck.
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PAWN
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:49 pm Reply with quote
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the screen didn't change color to a slight yellow where you were to have washed out the emulsion did it? If so, you may have burned the emulsion into the screen leaving no open holes.

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skinny
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:00 pm Reply with quote
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auragreg wrote:
ok - tried my first prints .... I think I should have went with a little simpler art for the first go!

I'm having huge problems getting the art to print at the edge of the board. I'm putting lots of pressure on the squeegee and it's still not printing. I have a 10" squeegee. Using my fingers to push the edges down.

Looking through the threads, it seems that possibly the screen is too tight. Do screens loosen up as you use them? Is there a way to loosen up a screen?


You can't loosen screens.
The technique you have to learn is called "the hook" it lets you put ink on the edge of the deck, while not pressing too hard on the middle.

Try not to print wider than about 7.25 on a flat screen.
Re-adjusting artwork to fit this size is a reasonable first step.

A "loose" screen is between 15-5 newtons.
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auragreg
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:58 pm Reply with quote
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skinny wrote:
auragreg wrote:
ok - tried my first prints .... I think I should have went with a little simpler art for the first go!

I'm having huge problems getting the art to print at the edge of the board. I'm putting lots of pressure on the squeegee and it's still not printing. I have a 10" squeegee. Using my fingers to push the edges down.

Looking through the threads, it seems that possibly the screen is too tight. Do screens loosen up as you use them? Is there a way to loosen up a screen?


You can't loosen screens.
The technique you have to learn is called "the hook" it lets you put ink on the edge of the deck, while not pressing too hard on the middle.

Try not to print wider than about 7.25 on a flat screen.
Re-adjusting artwork to fit this size is a reasonable first step.

A "loose" screen is between 15-5 newtons.


Just printed (horribly) 3 more decks today. Still working on the "hook". My art is 8-1/4" wide ... so I am running into ink building up on the print side because I can't get it to hit the deck. No matter how hard I push. I'm getting close. But it's pretty random. Have had OK results printing middle and then a separate pass for both sides. I really should have started with simpler art. Looked cool on a shirt tho.

Printed some shirts tho - man - that was easy!! It's funny how once you get going you are running around looking for things to print on. I got a $6 polo shirt at Target that the design went really nice on.

I have read that some people like pushing the squeegee ... but no one really elaborated on the technique .... anyone???

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newrepublicsteve
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:35 pm Reply with quote
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pushing on flatstock, and garments is as easy as dropping in

are you right handed or left handed
which ever it is place the opposite foot leading forward
hold your arms out in front of you at a 45% angle or so, pointing down, and point your fingers with your thumbs tucked behind

place the squeege in you hands with your fingers on top, thumbs behind...

now you are ready to practice the stroke

place the squeege at the top of the screen with the screen in postion to be printed on the pallet...

now rock forward heel to toe front foot to back using the weight shift to move the squeege forward

it has some what the same feel of dropping in to me...

keep the squeege and your arms at the 45% angle throught the print and with practice it will glide easily across the screen..

also always flood the screen...
makes the world of priting so much easier....

also we always make 2 passes on the screen every time to make sure the entire image clears evenly...

someone once asked me if you'd rather pull a car or push it, because at the end of an 8 hours day that is about what you have done...

here is a 15 color print we did all using a push...
we did 100 of the 15 colors in 4 hours...
for those who have stated in the past that a push does not work as well as a pull, well you deicide

we run 3 presses 8 hours a day all pushing and have very little fatigue, wrist, shoulder or back complaints

http://s195.photobucket.com/albums/z1...steve/dead%20see/








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