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| scuzzo84 |
 Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 2:18 pm |
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So I was under the impression that screening, not sure if thats the right term, was the only process of professionally getting a graphic on your deck. I read and saw pics of Skinny's process with his flat screen tutorial. It didnt explain how he got that screen and where to get it from, and how to get the image on it though. And that was for one basic color, not like most decks which have multiple colors.
Then I saw a thread on heat transfers and Trupah posted a company that makes transfers for under a dollar. I am not sure what the means but he posted pictures and it seems like this heat transfer process is just basically printing directly onto the board and then removign some plastic off the deck.
When I asked a member here, the major deck companies like Girl, do they use screening or heat transfers for their decks, he said heat tranfers. Is this right?
Another question is from what Trupah posted. He said a transfer is liek .50 cents, what does this mean exactly....what is a "transfer"? All I got from his post and pics was a deck going thru a machine that basically rolled a graphic onto the deck.
UPDATE:
Got my heat transfer question answered but what do you do with the film? Do you have to get your own machine to apply it?
Q1: What are heat transfers?
Heat-transfers are the printing plastic film which transfers graphics to wooden and plastic products. They are usually applied to skateboards, small surfboards, furniture, toys, stationery, and wooden sports equipment. Compared to traditional silkscreen printing, heat transfers are easier, cleaner, cheaper, and faster to transfer graphics onto products. They also last longer than other methods. |
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| TRUpah |
| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 2:44 pm |
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you can get your own machine
or you can just have your deck manu pres em on for you (recommended)
most manus will usually charge you 1 dollar per board plus the cost of a blank to put em on and shrink wrap em for ya
screen printing them yourself is cool too but the time to money ratio is just plain not worth it..... you have to really like screen printing to do it all the time yourself
transfers look better last longer are cheaper and faster to do
so you can spend your time skating or with your family or whatever you do....... |
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| ThrashCan |
| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 3:10 pm |
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If you really want to have a skateboard company learn how to screen print, learn about printing boards and put some fucking effort into it.
Its too fuckin easy to just email a graphic and money for someone else to apply the graphics for you.
I learned all about printing from this forum and other sites. Read up on it first then ask questions once you have a general understanding of it. |
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| skinny |
| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 3:12 pm |
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Here is a walk through on screen developing and other usefull info:
http://www.skateandannoy.com/features/diy/screenprinting/
Heat transfers are used for the majority of new skateboards. They are quick cheap and almost never have misprints.
A heat transfer can be made via a plotter, a printer (lame), or in a reversed silk screening process. The best quality transfers are made on a flat screen printed set up and are built in reverse (black first, then each color in the graphic, base colors last.), This is done onto a specific mylar that allows the colors to transfer htemselves permenently onto the surface of the deck. The process is completed by taking a screened piece of mylar(transfer) and placing it across the bottom of the deck. Heat and pressure are applied, the deck is then rollled through a machine twice, taken out and placed on a rack to allow it to cool. After it is cooled the mylar is peeled off and the edges are scraped around the deck. The finished product appears to be a perfect screenprint. An advantage to this is that with a plotted immage photographic quality immages can be achived. |
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| DILLINGERxCAPE |
| Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 12:54 pm |
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What kind of mylar? who manufactures it?
I own a fine art printing house with large format printers using UV archival inks. I would love to get into printing transfers for decks. Right now we just print on canvas and watercolor papers for major gallerys/publishing co. etc.
Any ideas on who to contact to buy a roll of this material and try it out.
Who makes the best from your experiences?
also curious if you could point me in the direction of a QUALITY hot press machine. or is that really necessary? maybe a heat gun would work?? I am looking into all this now but really would appreciate any input from others experienced in this area. This is all unfamiliar to me so far...
Now if you need to know how to accurately photograph paintings/artwork hi-res and color match and print a 4'x8' on canvas and stretch it I'm your man  |
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| emoxfag |
| Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:12 am |
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DILLINGERxCAPE wrote:
Now if you need to know how to accurately photograph paintings/artwork hi-res and color match and print a 4'x8' on canvas and stretch it I'm your man |
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