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| motorpsycho67 |
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| Cappy |
| Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:23 pm |
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What amazes me are this "From the housing project, it’s more than three miles to the Pick’n Save. That’s a long way to go for groceries if you don’t have a car or can’t carry stuff." When i was a child, it was a weekend event, everyone on bicycles and riding to the rural regions, picking it up local. Then have great meals the next days. Of course for the very far regions we used a car, but that was for mushrooms and other stuff you find in the woods (even learn what is good or bad). And most of the farmers offer to pick up local (even from the field), which safes you money too.
When my parents, were kids, their "Shopping Van" probably looked like this:
And dare you to open your mouth! Shut up and go! Miles and Miles..
This article shows the same problem like here, or all spoiled western countries. Turn of the telly/playstation and get your ass up.
I guess the uneducated, from poor to middle will still be good consumers for the cheap food industry. Only those who care or forced to it, will grow food. Who is better of or not to lazy, will just buy the good stuff. |
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| motorpsycho67 |
| Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:11 pm |
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Look beyond your nose.
Cappy wrote: What amazes me are this "From the housing project, it’s more than three miles to the Pick’n Save. That’s a long way to go for groceries if you don’t have a car or can’t carry stuff." When i was a child, it was a weekend event, everyone on bicycles and riding to the rural regions, picking it up local. Then have great meals the next days. Of course for the very far regions we used a car, but that was for mushrooms and other stuff you find in the woods (even learn what is good or bad). And most of the farmers offer to pick up local (even from the field), which safes you money too.
When my parents, were kids, their "Shopping Van" probably looked like this:
And dare you to open your mouth! Shut up and go! Miles and Miles..
This article shows the same problem like here, or all spoiled western countries. Turn of the telly/playstation and get your ass up.
I guess the uneducated, from poor to middle will still be good consumers for the cheap food industry. Only those who care or forced to it, will grow food. Who is better of or not to lazy, will just buy the good stuff. |
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| rightfootforward |
| Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:16 pm |
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good stuff.
I started teaching my daughter last year about growing her own food. We grow carrots, radishes, peas, beans and tomatoes.
She loves it and it gives her a good idea where food actually comes from.
I do not candy coat it for her either, she knows where meat comes from and what we have to do to the animals to get it.
It is important for children to get a good grasp at an early age on how things work so it is easier for them to deal with it as they get older.
This stuff they are passing off for food these days is sad, all manufactured processed junk. |
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| Cappy |
| Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:55 am |
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motorpsycho67 wrote: Look beyond your nose.
Well i guess people are still born with a mouth to ask friends or neighbors, in case of. 
However, the "solution" from that article isn't what can be copied to other places. Milwaukees population is a bit more as in my city, so its tiny on a global scale. The problem spots are the so called Mega Cities with millions of people. I guess in New York you first need to get rid of alot skyscrapers and cars (polution), before you can think of street farming, that could feed its people. And the problems in the USA, are tiny compared to others. |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:48 am |
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NY is probably a better place to utilise soylent green...
Great Article, good to see environmental concerns being "harnessed" so well |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:04 am |
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Without the damn immigrants and their street markets, they probably already would have soylent green!  |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:12 am |
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Cappy wrote: I guess in New York you first need to get rid of alot skyscrapers and cars (polution), before you can think of street farming, that could feed its people. And the problems in the USA, are tiny compared to others.
NYC has quite a few community gardens on rooftops and empty lots. |
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| slob-air |
| Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:27 am |
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The Fox News/Montesanto lawsuit was the ignored early warning.
Donald Rumsfeld ramming aspertame past the FDA, who thrice refusd it, was another sign. He did the same with splenda. Major sign.
That bovine spongiform encephalopathy popped up everywhere in the world but news was heavily suppressed in the US with regard to US infections, was another sign (actually entered the deer population as well).
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| Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:59 pm |
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motorpsycho67 wrote: Cappy wrote: I guess in New York you first need to get rid of alot skyscrapers and cars (polution), before you can think of street farming, that could feed its people. And the problems in the USA, are tiny compared to others.
NYC has quite a few community gardens on rooftops and empty lots.
With hydroponics and indoor grow lights you can grow vegetables anywhere with far better results than outdoor gardens.
Any apartment could basically have enough space to grow a small supplemental garden for several different types of vegetables.
The skyscrapers are not the problem, as a matter of fact with future large scale buildings the buildings themselves will have enough space for gardens that could surpass the needs of the people living and inhabiting them.
(Sustainability) The buildings, food, electricity, water all will be incorporated into one package. |
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