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Inkfxinc1
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:31 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 2
I have a few questions.......Is it possible to buy a monster mold or any mold for that matter. Where is the best prices on the maple veneers? I called great lakes veneer but there minimum is 1000 complete boards. Also does anyone have plans for a router table and that heat transfer machine that those chinese people use? When the deck is completed what kind of glue/clearcoat/finish should be put on the board. , i have been trying to start making boards but i cant really find this information.
THANK YOU!!
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yoinigo
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:16 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 24 May 2006 Posts: 7
i was wonder the same thing any one please help us

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Fedupskateboards
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:57 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 117 Location: Corpus Christi TX
I know it is possible to get custom molds from Prime Wood and a lot of other manufacturers, but your looking at some major bucks. And that's just for them to manufacture em. Maybe they might be able to sell you one? you can email someone for a quote? Although, If you're really into doing the majority of the manufacturing proccess solo I would think your best bet would to stay away from the mainstream idealistic stuff and buy a hydrolic press and make your own molds and model them after what you like ...rather than getting it made by some-one else. It would probably cost a crapload just to ship something like that. As for the router, Watson Laminates is sponsoring a design team trying to improve the routing process. There websites is http://maeprojects.ucsd.edu/mae156/ws...eb/home_page.html . It might give you a little bit better idea on how it's done. I have said it once and will say it again ...skinny is the man with every answer sought. I would like to know about the heat transfer machine so when you find out ...let me know!
goodluck,
-Josh

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skinny
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:28 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 12 Sep 2004 Posts: 2706
You set the temperature, then you line up the graphic which is on acitate, and you clamp the rollers onto the deck. It goes through the press twice. forward then backward. Then it gets set on a rack to cool. Once it is cooled the acitate is peeled away leaving the applied image. The edges are scraped clean.
Here is a top notch one with a saftey stop bar, and a temperatue control....
http://www.ronmillsandcompany.com/hea...nsfer-machine.htm

Molds are expensive in raw materials. I make my own molds. Some companies pay for custom mold makers like Chuck Hults. They are almost always made by hand and cast, not always machined. The fact is if you know what you are doing you can design many concaves, for all kinds of applications.

This is a tough thing to get started in. There are virtualy no small time hook ups for veneer. Even when you can get materials, you had better be in it to learn. Mistakes cost money. As for money......I eat ramen and wear worn out shoes. GOOD LUCK.


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skinny
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:32 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 12 Sep 2004 Posts: 2706
I just checked out the router thing....
Thats a really cool idea...
If they had talked to me or Joe they could have saved alot of time.

How do you make shapes other than a popcicle with that?

Man I need to get an engineering degree and make some real money!!

Silly me.


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Ok I just read through that whole article. That saves time when compared to a hand held router. A table router setup with a shape template would give perfect results, but be alittle slower. I think this is ONLY for popcicle shapes and for CRAPLOADS of decks a day. Still it comes down to operator skill. If your router guy knows what he is doing he won't mess up decks.

Thats not even close to how I do it.
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pennswood
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:18 am Reply with quote
Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 213
the system shown on that website is not going to work.
we built many crazy things to try the same deal.
all those bearings and guides do not help.

it comes down to the worker, or should i say craftsman,
and his skill. the method we use, that i have posted on here before,
is a table mounted router. 1/4 round bit 3/16 radius
bearing on top. the craftsman then moves the board around the bit.

i can do an entire board in 30 seconds.
another 10 seconds to set that board down and start the next.

we have been working on new top secret processes here at pennswood.
the first one is our veneer tree.
a genetically engineered maple tree that grows in a veneer form.
we have just finished our lunar pressig device.
we have a base on the moon.
the low gravity enables us to press at 1 million psi.
for this we dont even need glue.
then why pay people to make them.
we have cloned some alien human hybrids
they have razor sharp fingers for cutting the boards.
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bfg1971
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:24 am Reply with quote
Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 3915 Location: ohio
skinny wrote:
If your router guy knows what he is doing he won't mess up decks.


My router guy is too busy prioritizing QoS packets.
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yoinigo
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:12 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 24 May 2006 Posts: 7
penns that was good but how would u make the mold i have an idea but i would need a uncut blank and somthing that molds well and is hard a as hell any adive on this would help

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