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joystickcriminal
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 3:18 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 274 Location: York,PA
Ok so I've been messing around with this ink, and was wondering when it cures does it have a hard scratching feel to it, or am I just over curing it, I can't seem to get a nice smooth coverage, and what kind of squeegee's are you guys using, I believe mine is 50 Durometers, but just doesn't seem to work that great, I tried a firmer one and got better results, what would you recomend?
thanks in advance guys, or girls, or mutants of the world!
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thevagrant
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 3:25 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 19
first question is are you using the proper mesh count for you screen. because softhand should be just that soft. almost like water based ink printing. as for squeegees you should be using a medium/flexible blade.
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joystickcriminal
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 4:29 pm Reply with quote
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You know I was just thinking about that, I'm using 12xxmultifilament and I think I should be using 110 mono maybe? What do you think?
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ThrashCan
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 7:41 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 16 Mar 2004 Posts: 1331
I just hooked up a flat screen with 12xx mesh.

I got speedball water based acrylic paint but I dont think its gonna be very shiney or stick to the deck very well. I havnt tried it on a blank deck yet. What kinda paint do you guys recomend for that professional high gloss look.
I was thinkin I could get a clear glossy spray paint to make it shine and protect the paint. What do you think?

Thanks!

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Drunk Engine
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 12:24 pm Reply with quote
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You can add Finesse plastisol to your inks it helps reduce the viscosity and will add to the softhand of the printed garment. I use 155 to 300 meshcount screens, it really depends on the detail you need on your prints, 300 is perfect for halftones and diffusion. I use 70 Durrometer squeegees in varying sizes. Proper pressure, squeegee angle and flooding will add to your softhand that you are looking for. As for curing the inks most people always over cure these inks and the prints become stiff.
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Stranglehold77
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 3:32 pm Reply with quote
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The standard curing temp for plastisol is 300-320 degrees.
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Drunk Engine
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 6:30 pm Reply with quote
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The only time I would use 110 meshcount would be for putting a base coat of white onto a dark garment, such as a sweatshirt because most sweatshirts ribbing is coarse and you need alot of ink in order to fill the ribbing of the material and to build a flat surface for the rest of the print.

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Stranglehold77
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 6:55 pm Reply with quote
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I agree. For standard printing applications(a design with some detail, but not crazy halftones) I tend to use 140 or 155 mesh. 280 works great for process colors or other halftone detail, but you sure don't want to be pulling white through it.
110-125 is pretty much. like Engine said, just for laying down a white mask or printing on a loose knit.

Ty
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joystickcriminal
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 11:17 pm Reply with quote
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Cool, Thanks alot guys I'll try those mesh counts and see what happens, I forgot to mention I am using White ink, and figured maybe I should try between 160-180 mesh count? Would this be correct for white>

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sk8markmartin
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 6:06 pm Reply with quote
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hey i was wondering if you have to cure it or can you just let it dry. if you have to cure it then would i be able to use a heat gun or something like that.
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