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| pweakland |
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rampman73 wrote:
Wrong. The cities with the most strictist gun control are the cities with the most gun violence.
USA was founded on our right to bear arms. To protect ourselves from the mentally disturbed and foreign enemies.
You don't need guns to kill. Almost any object can kill, not just guns.
Any big country can walk into Canada and wipe you guys out. Why? Nobody has guns. No foreign country has the balls to do that to the USA. Why? 300 million guns owned by law abiding citizens is the reason. We will fight. We are homeland security!
Good lord, there is a lot of stupid in that post. |
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| j e f f |
| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:24 pm |
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| big.kahuna.burger |
| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:38 pm |
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pweakland wrote: rampman73 wrote:
Wrong. The cities with the most strictist gun control are the cities with the most gun violence.
USA was founded on our right to bear arms. To protect ourselves from the mentally disturbed and foreign enemies.
You don't need guns to kill. Almost any object can kill, not just guns.
Any big country can walk into Canada and wipe you guys out. Why? Nobody has guns. No foreign country has the balls to do that to the USA. Why? 300 million guns owned by law abiding citizens is the reason. We will fight. We are homeland security!
Good lord, there is a lot of stupid in that post.
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so much stupid, i dont even know where to start. its like the moronic rhetoric of the NRA, but with an extra helping of retard sauce.
but i will bite on the obvious...
rampman73 wrote: Any big country can walk into Canada and wipe you guys out. Why? Nobody has guns.
...except for the army... navy...and air force, numbnuts. thats why nations have defense forces... for exactly that purpose! we dont have automatic weapons for sale to civilians here in australia... why? because they are in the hands of the trained soldiers that defend our nation from external threats.
rampman73 wrote: No foreign country has the balls to do that to the USA. Why? 300 million guns owned by law abiding citizens is the reason. We will fight. We are homeland security!
wrong again chief. the reason why no one invades the USA is because for the strength of your army... navy...and air force... and the fact you have a shit-ton of nukes. if it werent for them, other countries would wade straight in. no offense, but you civilians with your guns would be little deterrent. |
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| big.kahuna.burger |
| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:51 pm |
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hammers arent designed with the express purpose of killing large numbers of people as efficiently as possible. assault style guns are.
what is the probability that a person can kill 50 people within a few minutes with a hammer? pretty low.
what is the probability that a person can kill 50 people within a few minutes with an assault rifle? 100% |
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| big.kahuna.burger |
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| Scotty T |
| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:40 pm |
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As for the arguments about more people having guns being able to take the shooter down, that is fantasy land shit. There was an armed police officer there. You think some fucking civilian not trained to shoot people would have done better? This argument is one of the common logical fallacies pro gun people use.
Sunday, June 12 - Suspect Omar Mateen tries to enter Pulse nightclub armed with assault rifle and and handgun and is spotted by a uniformed officer.
The two exchange fire outside the club - but Mateen manages to enter the nightclub holding 320 people while still firing. |
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| big.kahuna.burger |
| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:08 pm |
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this is an interesting read...
http://www.theage.com.au/comment/than...60615-gpjn0r.html
in case you cant open the article (its an editorial opinion piece written by an American woman who has emigrated to Australia)...
Thank you, Australia. Thank you for making me feel safe when I walk out my front door.
Thank you for not making me wonder if some enraged lunatic is going to shoot up the post office while I wait in line to mail a package back home to the States.
Thank you for not making me worry that my daughter will be slaughtered in a bloody shooting-spree at school, or that my husband might be shot in a restaurant while he has lunch, or that my gay and lesbian friends will be mowed down by a madman with a machine gun at a nightclub.
Thank you for honouring and protecting the good of the whole and not the selfishness of the individual.
Thank you, Australia, for recognising that guns are not toys. That they shouldn't be used for entertainment purposes and that they don't imbue a person with power, nor do they command respect.
Thank you for not celebrating them as extensions of masculinity.
Thank you for not living in a false reality, on an imagined frontier, where everyday people think they're super-hero cowboys and that God guaranteed them a gun.
Thank you, Australia, for changing a law when the law wasn't protecting the people it was meant to serve.
Thank you for putting the protection of your people above the protection of a doctrine.
Thank you for not being fossilised by your constitution.
Thank you, Australia, for not accepting the excuses for owning a gun.
Thank you for understanding that wanting to have a gun to play with at the shooting range on the weekend is a selfish indulgence, not an inalienable right.
Thank you for caring about your fellow man more than your gun.
Thank you for being intelligent enough to know that more guns don't make people safer.
Thank you for not capitalising on your citizens' fear while you arm their enemies and make $36.2 billion selling weapons to other countries.
Thank you, Australia, for doing the job my country can't: making its people safe.
I realise that there are still occurrences of gun violence in Australia, but nothing like there is in America.
When we first moved to Australia, my husband and I lived in Fitzroy for three years. Friends questioned our safety there. We usually laughed in response.
In a gun culture, there never really is peace. There is a constant, heightened state of alert. In crowded places, the shopping centre, the cinema, school campuses, sporting events, in places where we should feel safe, there is the nagging fear of gun violence always present.
You don't realise the weight of the fear of living in a gunned-up society until you don't live there anymore.
Living here, I am less afraid, less suspicious of my fellow man as well. When everyone has a gun, anyone can be the one who's going to shoot you.
America's gun laws foster an unhealthy suspicion of its citizens and turn people against each other. An "I'll shoot you first" mentality is not one of camaraderie and unity.
But, fed by fear, it's the false sense of power and control that a gun provides that does the most damage to a society.
Instead of being frightened of the next random act of terrorism, people are afraid of each other.
So what do they do to control that fear? They buy a gun to defend themselves. Yet not one of the 62 mass shootings in the United States over the last 30 years has been stopped by an armed civilian.
So I watch all of this from a safe distance, in a safe country, and I feel almost guilty for my gratitude. I'm an American. I'm proud of my country for so many things, but for this, for these countless acts of preventable violence, I am terribly, terribly ashamed.
When the Sandy Hook Elementary school shooting happened, I watched from my sunny living room while my almost one-year-old daughter crawled around the Christmas tree. It was summer here, Australia at its best. A warm breeze, sun glinting off the pool in the backyard.
But on the television screen was the worst horror I could ever imagine. So many dead children. So many unopened packages beneath so many trees. So many cold little beds. So many birthday parties that would never come, graduations, weddings, families that would never be and so many families that would never be the same. My body ached for them as though those children and those families were my own.
I could never imagine something so horrible happening to my child, a man-made bullet tearing through her tiny body, stealing her future from her and that love from my life. I sat there and watched the parents scream. I watched the tears. I watched the friends and family try to console. I was angry. I was sad.
And when I picked up my daughter and squeezed her and held her to me and kissed her baby-fat cheeks, I was grateful. I was grateful to live here in a country that does more than say gun violence should be stopped. It's done something about it. Thank you, Australia. |
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| slob-air |
| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:39 pm |
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rampman73 wrote: The cities with the most strictist gun control are the cities with the most gun violence.
This is categorically the most moronic thing you've ever posted. The facts say you're not only wrong, but stupid too.
rampman73 wrote:
USA was founded on our right to bear arms. To protect ourselves from the mentally disturbed and foreign enemies.
No it wasn't, my god, you can't actually be that stupid, can you?!!
rampman73 wrote:
You don't need guns to kill. Almost any object can kill, not just guns.
Guns are specifically designed to kill with no other purpose in mind at their conception.
So get rid of the guns and give everyone one of these other objects you speak of.
rampman73 wrote:
Any big country can walk into Canada and wipe you guys out. Why? Nobody has guns. No foreign country has the balls to do that to the USA. Why? 300 million guns owned by law abiding citizens is the reason. We will fight. We are homeland security!
The US tried that in 1812. US forces were chased back across the boarder and the White House was burnt to the ground.
No other country has tried because it would be tactically insane to even try.
Guns, regardless of their numbers, don't work well against tanks, attack helicopters, fighter bombers etc.
You would be smear. |
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| big.kahuna.burger |
| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:17 pm |
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slob, we have the order of the skulls label next to peoples names... so it looks like tags cab be applied to members...
so can we also have something similar that says 'Warning: Retard' for really really stupid people? you know, for the people that are so dumb that if they close their mouth they will suffocate...
the fine people of S&B need to be warned that when talking to people like that, there is minimal posibility that they will comprehend what is being said, so attempting to communicate on any rational level is obviously a waste of everyones time...
such a warning would help everyone.
it would let the knuckle draggers know their place in the world of people with opposable thumbs.
it would also provide context to comments such as the above which have no basis in rational thought or common sense.
it wouldnt have to be a bad label, could be a subtle message...
warning: retard.
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| rampman73 |
| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:47 pm |
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Hey
Thanks for the name calling. Typical Liberals.
Your Armies and Navy are spread out around the country you live in. So when your little town you live in is attacked, what are you going to do?
Local police can only do so much. It'll take hours, if not a day to get a armed regiment in to save you. By then you'll be gone. You get a fighting chance with a gun or guns.
Safest country in the world is Switzerland. One in two people own guns. |
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