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HamPajamas
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:52 am Reply with quote
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I mess around with instant photography, I want to try and take this image I made today and screen print it onto a shirt. Can anyone lead my in the right direction for some good information on learning the screen printing process? It's something I have been interested in for awhile and I figure all you board artists know a lot more about screen printing than I currently do, since I am t zero right now.





This is a scan of the positive image



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Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:21 am Reply with quote
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I have no screening or printing experience to share with you, but I did notice this Kickstarter project and had me wondering if it would prove to be a simple/easy way for you to at least get your idea on a shirt and maybe start you off with some experience in the process.... ??

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/l...-the-lumi-process

http://lumi.co/


anyhow... hope that helps somehow.... cheers and best wishes on your project.

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Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:08 pm Reply with quote
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I've never screened, but I've read a lot. Just start searching and eventually you'll find enough to get you through.

I would say that image is not crisp or defined, it's going to pose a bunch of problems that you don't need just starting out.

watch some youtube videos, have a look on screenprintingforum.com
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HamPajamas
Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:39 pm Reply with quote
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Thanks for all the suggestions. I really appreciate it. I have already been devouring. Youtube videos. The specific examples help a lot. Im looking at resources and equipment and doing price comparison.

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Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:08 pm Reply with quote
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If you wanna start simple, go to Michael's or a comparable arts/craft store and get one of the beginner's screen printing kits made by Speedball. They're not super sophisticated but it'll have everything you need (screen, squeegee, inks, screen filler, photo emulsion, how-to-guide) to get started. I've done a good amount of screen printing and it's how I got started.

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Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:36 pm Reply with quote
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There's really not enough contrast in that image to make a good screen. You need to go with an image with a lot more contrast to make a good screen. Halftones do not treat subtle gradations well.

You could possibly get a decent duotone screen outta that, but it would take some work.

What does the original image look like?

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Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:45 pm Reply with quote
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The original image is the black and white image at the bottom of the post. Also keep in mind I don't have a quality scanner. I greatly appreciate all the input so far. Lol I am beginning to think I should choose a more contrasty image myself. However I like the image. I may use it for another project.

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Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:54 pm Reply with quote
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I've started experimenting with double exposures in my packfilm cameras and im just stoked about the results. Doing a lot of detailed close up work. I need a better macro lens for my 35mm before I try it with that.

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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:21 am Reply with quote
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Halftone. And not the Adobe Illustrator halftones but an actual halftone created by a rip program and or second to best is CS4 with a purchased fine line rotatable screen brush mesh.

The screen mesh that comes with CS3,4 and other versions only does a fake droplet shape and wouldn't capture the blurs. You'd need to run two halftone screens at various lines or imitate the photo for dead on silkscreening. For silkscreening you'd need to run two thin inks for white shirts and or white base or tinted soft purple-blue white base then a cyan-purple(blue/purple*) over that for the darker areas. One at 60 percent and fine sized droplet and another at say 35 to do the blue haze effect.

That is to do it right or just about right.

Because there is two colors, a cyan purple blue and a light purple. To approximate you need to use two colors to keep contrast and represent both blurs and fades.

Or have it direct to garment injet on white as a RGB file as what-you-see-what you get.

There is two types of purple, purple-red, and purple-blue excluding lilac and puce which are perfect examples of the two types of purple.

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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:24 am Reply with quote
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Oh, and lumidyes have been around for a while in one form or another. Just that you can really sorta only do one color.

But it would work awesome for your project.

Otherwise it's a mess the other way and with silkscreening there is 10 ways to skin the same cat and 10 guys that will mess it up and not get it right and you will be bummed out if you pick the wrong guy.

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