i thought they were different.

when i got my eagle way back when, it seemed to have a different shape, not radically different but i could tell it was different. i think maybe the graphic made it seem that way but it rode differently, not concave wise i dont think but it felt differently.

thats why i asked for the eagle version, it seemed a little less shaped than the horn blower. like it was a horn blower with more subtle shaping to it.

i'm thinking the dimensions were like 6.75" tail 6.5" nose (depending which wheel base you went with as the deck was double drilled) and about 9.5" wide.

i'm debating between going with this shape or the heinzman double kick "shuffle" board, which is a little more bowed out on the sides than the vallely and the tail/s (or tail and nose) were a little more squared. but i might go with both and have different boards for different situations, like one for ramp and one for street.

here are the exact dims:

Tail 6.5"
Nose 6" or 5.25"
width 9.75"

If you order from five point skates count me in for 1 also.

I hope it helps